This "forum is about to implode" [Archive]

Wichita Wayne

August 16th, 2004, 12:40 PM

Wilm

August 16th, 2004, 01:00 PM

We are making the news on other digital photo forums. And it seems that they are predicting our imminent demise. We can probably expect a lot of lurkers in the next few weeks.

http://digitalphotographers.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=9196015511&f=6596015511&m=68310425511&r=21710845511#21710845511

I normally haunt three forums on the internet. This, of course, is one of the sites. I also visit Gary Fong’s forum because I am a wedding photographer. They talk business, legal, pricing and general wedding stuff that I find interesting. The third place I visit is a BBQ forum where I share information and laughs with other BBQ fanatics. I am one of the founding members of that forum and it has grown faster than any forum that I have ever visited. We have regional and national gatherings and even have teams that enter competitions across the country.

http://www.bandera-brethren.com/

Lets try to prove the people at Gary Fong’s wrong about our demise.

Wayne,
do you really think we will demise ?

The things happend in this forum are from my point of view very usual. People are coming, people are going. Even when they have posted serveral thousands of posts. I am a moderator in an another forum. And similar situations happend. "High-End-Posters" were leaving, others were coming. It is a question about the complete community. You could talk about a diing forum when 20% of the standard-users were leaving. One person does matter for some weeks, but nothing for some month. When 10-15 key-posters would leave this forum, it might be slight different.

I have tried to follow the problems between Mike and Igor but very early I have stopped to follow. Why ? That´s usual. Please take in account that all the people over here are virtual. It might be a wonder if I would meet you personally, it might be a wonder to meet somebody else with a distance more than 1 flighthour for me.

This forum is international and we should agree that other countries would not agree what is usual for us.
I have posted a picture of my daugther half naked. There is no problem here in Europe but I have learned that this is forbidden in several parts of the U.S.
Did I try to offend you ? No way ! It was my way of thinking about this suff.

All in all,
don't let this forum die. It is worth the survive in the WWW

Wayne, this post wasn't adressed to you personally, my intention was for everybody

:cheers:
Wilm

NZDoug

August 16th, 2004, 01:07 PM

Hi All,
I like it here for the exchange of info, stimulation, inspiration, and feedback.
As soon as bickering starts, I pass ,that is, not join in, and hunt for pictures.
Were ALL wonderful!
:cheers: :stupid: ;) :flame:

sandman

August 16th, 2004, 01:09 PM

We have a old saying over here '' one swallow does'nt make a summer'' just because one ex member (buckeyed nomad) has suggested that this forum is'nt all it was , does not mean we are going to 'implode'
O.K. we've had problems lately , and the've been addressed , but on the whole i'd rather stay here than any of the other forums , and i am also a member on Fred/Miranda , Photozo , and a couple of British photo sites , i also visit Gary Fongs , and Rob Galbraith forums .
So lets not give anyone the satisfaction of our demise .
It was one of yours Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) who said

''The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated''

Lets prove it , and behave ourselves .

Brian

Swampy

August 16th, 2004, 01:10 PM

What a few people don't understand is that this is a marketing ploy to get more users and traffic over here. ;)

I look at Gary's site from time to time and I respect the community that he has assembled. We are a small community who are still learning the ways of democracy in type. This forum has been the focus of primarily the S2 Pro. This camera is going to go away as we're well seeing with people moving the SLR/n, D70, D2h and even over to Canon. Another set of people will be leaving thier S2 Pro's for the D2x if/when that comes out. There will also be some that stick with Fuji and get an S3.

Reading some of the comments from that thread on Gary's site, I see someone mentioned something about no one posting any questions. I like to think this place is a pretty easy to get around place and with all the problems of the S2, being a primarily S2 site and the maturity of this camera, there aren't many questions left to answer. The Search engine here is fast and easy to use. Most every question has been answered regarding the camera itself.

There is a small problem here of people posting pictures and asking what they can do better and then taking it the wrong way or just not posting pictures and not asking questions because of some of the arguments that have come up. This is something everyone is going to have to overcome. We're all here to help with the exception of a stray bashing user that shows up on a rare occasion. Fear not, we'll stick up with and for you.

Another thing we'll all have to accept is that we're letting other camera's come in here that are Nikon based. There will be questions about those that will need answering.

I guess you could call this period of time a "re-alignment". I don't like to lose users, but we do, every day. We also gain a user every day so it balances out. I try and monitor this place to the best of my ability, but sometimes that isn't quite enough. I need to rely on the users here to be mature and sensible about things. If I can't rely on that, then go ahead, argue away and leave the board, but try and do it in Private messaging to save some face here. :)

Wilm

August 16th, 2004, 01:30 PM

Bryan,

I'll stay :righton:

NZDoug

August 16th, 2004, 01:33 PM

Im also here because it is a reasonable size and ya can post.
I was on Nikonians which broke 10,000 members while I was a contributor but now its over 20,000.
If I log on once a week at Nikonians, there are approx.1500-2000 messages of mostly learner or gear repetition.
Later!

jasonbrian007

August 16th, 2004, 01:45 PM

Implode!!!! Only if you let it. Why on earth should it implode? :) Forums like this are what you make it - make it informative, light hearted, enjoyable and youve hooked users - if it becomes agressive and offensive then slowly but surely the users will leave - human nature I think. So far, i'm enjoying it - good work Bryan in keeping it all ticking ( er... sorry again about that old thread Brian/Bryan :lol: )

jason :cheers:

Wichita Wayne

August 16th, 2004, 02:14 PM

I never said that I predicted our demise. Not me. Things like this will happen from time to time and then go on. We really have too many members that post dailey to really implode. And as fast as this thread gathered opinions is testimonial to how alive we really are.

ANNNND! If you want to learn how to smoke a really good brisket then check out my other link. And don't even get me started on Atomic Buffalo Turds.

HulaMike

August 16th, 2004, 03:43 PM

just bookmarked the BBQ site Wayne, thanks for the link. As far as the rest of this goes, I've had the time to decompress and mend my ways. I will never knowingly go that far out on a limb here again. I've more or less schmoozed Igor by promising to stay clear of his posts in the future so if he wants to come back, fine with me. I'd just as soon forget about all of the crap last week. Gotta live in the present. NZZZZ's my new role model.

Linda G

August 16th, 2004, 04:07 PM

BBQ? Wayne, they're looking for judges again for the cookout here Sept 18th. I was a judge last year for the bbq and had a good time! We were stuffed with bbq for a few days due to all the samples I had to bring home. (Full size servings are a must to judge but you don't eat them! Just taste or you'll never be able to get through it all! six chicken thighs, six shredded chicken helpings, 6 pork ribs, 6 beef ribs, 6 beef other parts, and on and on!)

Do you cook for it? I won't be a judge this year because it's the weekend of our outing in Colorado, but passed the letter on at work, don't know if they'll follow up with it.

Implode? HAH! Interesting? Yes.

It does make it difficult due to the differing cultures and if we get just one who's not willing to understand that they will never understand but it doesn't change the way things need to be done, a hot conversation soon follows.

I agree....TAKE IT PRIVATE

Bill C

August 16th, 2004, 04:58 PM

....snip... And don't even get me started on Atomic Buffalo Turds.
Atomic Buffalo Turds! I don't know what they are, but I can imagine!....I like hot stuff, and that sound hot! :cheers: Guess I better check your site out!

Sure, this site will change .... it is a community, and like any community, people move in .. people move out .... but the community will survive!
Tough choice tonight .... Watch the Olympics, or the Green Bay Packers (I'm originally from Wisconsin...guess my wife just made the decision.....he/she who has the remote rules!)
Bill

NZDoug

August 16th, 2004, 05:35 PM

Heres some advice from Nipper.(55k.) :monalisa:

Steve Wynn

August 16th, 2004, 06:19 PM

Sleeping Bear

August 16th, 2004, 09:21 PM

I made the post concerning the problems on this forum at www.digitalphotographers.net but there are a lot of people who have noticed the same thing. I hear this almost on a weekly basis. There used to be about 3-4 forums that I really enjoyed, one is gone and this one is going through some growing pains. Another photographer I talk to regularly said he sees a comparison between this one and a locker room. More self constraint needs to be utilized.This is a darn good forum but there seems to be a problem with the way people receive critism and getting bent out of of shape. They need to learn to accept it with a grain of salt or skip posting something for review if they don't know how to accept it with a grain of salt. Critical reviews come pretty quick here, the competetiveness is evident. Insults have chased away more than just the latest, (Igor). Other popular or well known members have left in a huff.

This site just needs to bring it down a notch so as not to offend so many people.

Steve

I agree. We've got some acid tongues who, I think, get a kick out of causing a stir. If it were up to me I'd have silently kicked thier a**es out of here. It's pretty easy to tell the brain-deads from those who come here to have fun and maybe pick up a tip or trick. All in all I do think the site has gone through some growing pains which it may or may not recover from. Only time and the members will tell. I will remain positive and will not hesitate to kindly intervene if poo-poo hits the fan or someone crosses the line. I expect the same treatment myself.

:cheers:

sandman

August 16th, 2004, 11:18 PM

Steve i called you an ex-member in my original reply , i'm sorry i did'nt realise you'd changed your user name back to your own , just thought as i had'nt seen ''buckeyed nomad '' around since the old forum , that you'd gone .

Brian

Linda G

August 17th, 2004, 03:04 AM

I will remain positive and will not hesitate to kindly intervene if poo-poo hits the fan or someone crosses the line. I expect the same treatment myself.

:cheers:

Remaining positive or taking it private when intervening is also the best way to handle it to keep everyone from joining in and either defending or slamming the cause of the poo-poo. too many times someone has crossed a line and those trying to rectify it cross another line to let them know.

Two lefts do NOT make a right.

Sleeping Bear

August 17th, 2004, 06:38 AM

Remaining positive or taking it private when intervening is also the best way to handle it to keep everyone from joining in and either defending or slamming the cause of the poo-poo. too many times someone has crossed a line and those trying to rectify it cross another line to let them know.

Two lefts do NOT make a right.

I could not agree more, Linda. In fact, I was sent a PM by someone who thought I was pointing fingers with my original post. Not at all. My point was, and is, that before we hit the submit button we should think about what we have written. If it's just a 'neener neener' type response, why bother? Look before you leap, I guess. If you must respond in less than kind words, an email is the best way to go. I also think a positive attitude is the way to go. I need to get back to the place I was when I looked at every post as though it were written by a smiling and happy person. In fact, I'm happy and smiling right now! :) Here's to a kinder forum. :cheers:

Swampy

August 17th, 2004, 06:43 AM

We've only had 4-5 arguements this year, which is still a very good record in my book. I think these arguements have just been with the wrong people though and the forums here were probably slammed by them in other forums when they left.

I don't think it's a problem of harsh criticisms. I think it's a problem of not being able to take criticisms. Almost everytime people are pretty spot on about what they say about someone else's shot, but that someone else already has it dead set in thier mind that it was a perfect shot and they'll defend it to the death attacking back with either or both Pride and Ego perhaps. That's what needs to stop. Either take it or don't ask for it or in a mature manner, ask why they think so and learn from it.

I am not going to put up with the ghetto arguements for much longer myself and if I go, you know what that means. Not saying that I'm leaving anytime soon, I understand a fight will break out once in a great while in the open. That's kinda ok (I don't want to see any of it in the open, but it will happen anywhere). If you wanna get bare knuckled about it with someone though, take it to a private message. Pretty easy to remember that I would think.

Maybe we need a commitee to vote immediately on banning a user that starts a fight? NO. Everyone should just know.

ekc903

August 17th, 2004, 10:10 AM

Hey Wayne, I tried to click on the little flame, but it's not working on my computer. I wanted to read all about the Brethren and the origin of your name. I'll try again at home. Should a PDF download automatically?
RE: Our "imminent" demise. Linda, etc, you all have just articulated my thoughts very well for me. Nipper makes an especially strong argument. In the spirit of not dragging out what should already be old news, I have nothing to add.
I haven't checked other threads, but I hope nobody left permanently. Is everyone back?
kathleen

Steve Wynn

August 17th, 2004, 01:34 PM

Brian, not offended here, when the old site crashed, and we had to re-register I just used my real name.

What does offend me is the attitude and acid tongued comments that have been getting posted. I think it was on this site, but if not I'll say it here. I've seen a site disapear, right now, from what I've found, I consider this one, Rob Galbraiths, and Gary Fongs sites as the ones on the net worth the time. Each has it's merits and I don't want to see any of them go away, but I think I've seen two or three people from this one, if I'm not mistaken, leave in a huff, after a variety of reasons, unfortunately justified. I think it's uncalled for. A good forum, and photography associations openly share ideas and comments with respect.

Steve

Wichita Wayne

August 17th, 2004, 04:35 PM

I make a point of finding good as well as bad. And my attitude about art is that if you do not like then keep your mouth shut and go on to something you do enjoy. I for one think that all negative comments are a waste of my time and only hurt the person that created the art.

And the Atomic Buffalo Turds are easily Googled where you will find out that they are jalapino peppers that are split or hollowed out and filled with cream cheese and a bit of BBQ or a little smokie sausage. Then you wrap the things in bacon and smoke them for a few hours. These guys are literally "to die for". Anybody that dies without eating a turd has never lived. Next time I fix a batch I will take a few pictures and post them.

Linda G

August 17th, 2004, 04:41 PM

how about telling a local where she can get one? at the bbq cook off?

Wichita Wayne

August 17th, 2004, 04:47 PM

My house, next time I will invite you, and a friends house that got the recipe from me. But really, they are easy to make and if you remove all the seeds from the jalapinos then they are not too hot to enjoy. Did my son-in-law give you the disk today?

Linda G

August 17th, 2004, 05:35 PM

Great! I'm not fond of very hot foods, I like flavor! <g>

No, he would tomorrow since he works elsewhere on Tuesdays.

Wichita Wayne

August 17th, 2004, 08:14 PM

Hey Wayne, I tried to click on the little flame, but it's not working on my computer. I wanted to read all about the Brethren and the origin of your name. I'll try again at home. Should a PDF download automatically?

kathleen

I had a boss that was from Seattle in the mid 80's and he coined the name Wichita Wayne. Simply because my name is Wayne and I am from Wichita. The BBQ site is a big site with lots of activity. I am a founding member but I do not run the site. We have a couple of other founding members that really do a professional job at that. Kind of like Swampy has done here. We should all give daily thanks to the guys like Swampy that really make this all happen. Also the Bandera Brethern started because they had a common interest in a brand name wood fired smoker oven called a Bandera. It is just a web site similar to this forum.

5string

August 25th, 2004, 06:14 AM

I don't think this site will implode..or at least I hope not. I lurked for months and months and then joined last September. I spent so much time lurking because, being a raw novice, I was intimidated by all the talent here. I finally bit the bullet and joined because I knew that having expert critique and advice was the only way I was going to improve my skills. I am in debt to several members here for the assistance they've given. However, I'm not a pro photographer (and I appreciate the patience of those of you who are..) and don't have any ego tied up in my pixekated profferings. I am, however, a pro level musician. I don't play for a living, but often play with folks who do. Some of those individuals are very complimentary about my playing. Some offer constructive criticism that always helps, and some are just jerks who were the "Put Me In Coach" types in high school. Even though I do have some ego tied up in playing music, I don't let negative comments bother me and chalk it up to a difference in taste. What you have to realize when listening to comments/opinions/critique on this or any other forum, is that most people who are musicians or photographers, are not trained instructors/teachers acquainted with the foundations of human learning. They're artists, not teachers. I know you've had an Algebra teacher who knew every thing there was to know about the subject....might have had 46 Ph.D's in the area, but couldn't teach it and ended up only frustrating students. Some of the most helpful people on this forum seem to either have some training in teaching others or just come by it naturally/intuitively. Those people typically start off telling the poster what they like about the photo and then discuss how they would improve it. In a nutshell, that's how critiques orta be done. I guess the short form of this post is I have benefitted immeasurably from being a member of this forum and plan to continue picking the brains of the esteemed members here and I hope that folks can come here unencumbered by the contraints of ego. I don't think this board will go belly up, but in the unlikely event that it does...all of you guys tell me where you're going so I can follow and aggrivate you elsewhere.

Serge

August 25th, 2004, 04:16 PM

Well said Banjer :beerchug:

It would be cool to hear one of your pickin tunes in an MP3 file :)
if that is possible to post on this forum ;)

JPS

August 26th, 2004, 12:29 AM

...........I don't think this board will go belly up, but in the unlikely event that it does...all of you guys tell me where you're going so I can follow and aggrivate you elsewhere...........
I'm 200% with 5string on that one ! ...I noticed that lately the "movement" had solwed down quite a bit, although there are everyday newcommers, it seems as though some "elders" (of the site) are less often posting :o
I just hope the site will not become a second DPReview (wich I don't frequent much since I discovered this one), nor dies out...
In any case, it's certain that most of us are too much used of each others comments/critics, etc... that we should keep in-touch one way or another ! :)
Only thing I or/and YOU can do ? KEEP POSTING !!!
...and long life to "The Swamps" !
:cheers:

5string

August 26th, 2004, 07:09 AM

Serge, I'll ask Swampy if there's some way of posting an MP3 file or 2 either here or in my profile.

PortageBay

August 26th, 2004, 10:13 AM

I certainly hope that this site can keep it together. A lot of nice photo's get posted and there are is good feedback. We all have different ideas about what we like to shoot, and how we see that image come to life. This is what makes it work.

I'm with Serge 5string, I'd love to hear some tunes. Keep us posted.

Cheers, Don

Serge

August 26th, 2004, 03:33 PM

Serge, I'll ask Swampy if there's some way of posting an MP3 file or 2 either here or in my profile.

That would be cool 5string :beerchug:
I'll ask around some of our computer geeks, for the smallest audio file format.
It would be neat to have say a slide show in FLASH format of your portfolio with your music, we had a good example here before, forget the member.

While I'm on the box :soapbox:

What happened to our LOGO Competition
CALENDAR Initiative
and
Mike's MASCOT idea ???

O.K. Mike is off to "Meet The Parents" ;) so that is on hold for a while, but there was a lot of evergy generated before, where has it al desipated :o

5string

August 26th, 2004, 04:58 PM

I'm going to convert a few of my tunes to MP3 and Swampy is going to put them on a site where I can post some links here for them.

Tom V

August 26th, 2004, 06:45 PM

The only guy who has tried to insult me, as far as I know, is Mobius Entwine. But since I've known Mobius for a few years now, I understand his mental condition, and I consider his insults as simple cries for attention. I always look forward to his posts.

If this forum were to implode, would it end up as a black hole? Would it get denser and denser? Emit nothing? And further, suck the entire web in with it? I THINK NOT!

LONG LIVE THE FORUM!

:beerchug:

Wichita Wayne

August 26th, 2004, 07:18 PM

I am always telling my students that they need to watch their horizons. If we implode into a huge black hole I guess I will have tostart telling them towatch their "event horizons".

Sleeping Bear

August 26th, 2004, 07:46 PM

I am always telling my students that they need to watch their horizons. If we implode into a huge black hole I guess I will have tostart telling them towatch their "event horizons".

Just tell them to watch Stargate.

AzRich

August 26th, 2004, 08:51 PM

implode, never done that before. Cool.

Seriously- Is everyone here taking stuff that personally? I mean, really?

Maybe I don't get 'it' because pix aren't my paycheck, but jeez. Isn't this stuff an art as much as it is a science? Even more so art? Er, is that even art more so.. anyway, it's subjective right? Doesn't everyone have an opinion, but no one is more 'right' than another. Maybe there are more technically right opinions. I mean, if I want blown highlights then so be it! You don't like blown highlights, then say so.

I guess I don't see what the hoopla is all about, I have not seen that many mean posts. Perhaps I thought they were being sarcastic and not mean when in fact they were trying to be mean! When I read the goodbye thread I was thinking- where have I been that I missed this shootout.

Do you think maybe we're over-reacting? I mean, if someone wants to 'leave' then s/he can do so with no drama, right?

This would be a good time to say - if I have offended anyone, then you took what I said wrong. Sometimes its easy to forget that not everyone knows my sense of humor, sometimes biting and sarcastic. That is, I'm from New Jersey. If someone meant to offend me, let me know... I missed it and thought you were being funny :)

I have a saying at work for those who get upset over petty things, 'they need cancer.' Yes, that sounds mean, but what it says is that they need perspective. I've got a friend in hospice right now with cancer, that puts my world in perspective.

Ah, that's it... perspective. Everything looks good from here!

You guys/gals have nothing to worry about, just look at all the other stuff going on. There's a lot of people getting help, ideas, etc here.

In fact, I need to thank whomever it was that posted the fact that his/her mirror locked up and camera went dead when the cr123s died. This just happened to me and after a bit of panic, I remembered that post, changed the cr123s and was VERY relieved.

Hmm, I posted too much, no one will ever get to the end of this one.

Oh, and thanx to everyone here who has helped with friendly advice and criticisms :) If you made it this far in my post you should get a prize.

JPS

August 27th, 2004, 12:05 AM

no one will ever get to the end of this one.
I did, and _I agree 100% with you ! ...just that it really looks as though quite a few "old-timers" -more than one year of presence- seem to have disapeared... :confused: I hope they only away for holiday ? :o
.

If you made it this far in my post you should get a prize.
Again... I did ! what shall I receive then ? :p
:cheers:

lightwrangler

August 27th, 2004, 07:36 AM

"The report of my death was an exaggeration" - Mark Twain in a cable to his publisher.

It only goes to show that when you are a popular, going concern there will always be people who want you to disappear. Success it seems breeds contempt (or at least a handful of chicken little types).

Implode? Really? I can't see it happening. IMHO a few squabbles, with egos bruised won't cause this forum to collapse into itself. I do wish that we had more discussions about equipment and technique and a little less about photographs. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of pictures, but often they don't make for a very benefical discussion unless they are tied to equipment or technique. But that's just me, I rarely comment on pictures anyway.

The people who are predicting an end to this forum are most likely the same folks who are still eating the canned peas that they stocked in the bomb shelter in preparation for Y2K. However, many things do have a shelf life and a natural end. So if this forum ceases to exist, it most likely will be a slow fade to black not some kind of cateclysmic event sending ripples throughout the world wide web.

But as I said, that's just me.

AzRich

August 27th, 2004, 03:12 PM

Okay JP, you win the rusted red wagon.. just give me an address!

Nice shot at the Y2K types! I worked that night, waiting for the world to come to a halt... I wonder if there are still people in shelters convinced the surface has incinerated in a nuclear hell?

NZDoug

August 23rd, 2005, 04:44 PM

Heres some advice from Nipper.(55k.) :monalisa:
Hey you Great britain guys!
The shot of Nipper tasking a wizz in this thread has sold thru a stock agent as a cover for a mystery novel.
I dont know any more details, but if you happen to see it , let me know , as we miss the Nipper hound and are proud that somebody can appreciate his irreverence!
If I can find out the name of the book, then I can figure a way to get a copy.
ta :monalisa:

KeithM

August 24th, 2005, 12:45 AM

Hey you Great britain guys!
The shot of Nipper tasking a wizz in this thread has sold thru a stock agent as a cover for a mystery novel.
I dont know any more details, but if you happen to see it , let me know , as we miss the Nipper hound and are proud that somebody can appreciate his irreverence!
If I can find out the name of the book, then I can figure a way to get a copy.
ta :monalisa:

:) Nice one Doug :righton:

Will do.

K.

Tom V

August 24th, 2005, 07:17 AM

I saw this thread and thought - Oh no! We're doomed!

Then I realized it started Aug 16, 2004 and we're still here. Implode Not!

Good luck to the nipper!

JuanCa

August 24th, 2005, 08:03 PM

Hey!! Implode? No body forwarded that memo to my studio... :rolleyes:

Should I start stacking my pelican case with CF, Batteries, Sensor cleaning stuff, Batteries, Microdrives, Batteries, ,print outs from all this helpfull members emails and tips on PS, lighting, etc....

Excuse me for a second... :tupon:

Oh, we are still here, FIUUUU!....

I will check tomorrow to make sure you guys have not left me alone with my computer.. :righton:

Juan Carlos :rockon:

sandman

August 24th, 2005, 10:33 PM

Forgot all about this year old thread , funy how when you read the posts back , swampy going on about some getting D2X's and leaving , some getting canons and leaving .A year on and most of us are still here and willbe for some time , some have gone , more have joined .
We've had a few squabbles over the year , what family don't , but have come through unscathed.
So hears to this year and next :cheers:

Brian

chaser of light

August 25th, 2005, 01:13 AM

So hears to this year and next :cheers:

Brian

Ill drink to that :beerchug: :D

Sleeping Bear

August 25th, 2005, 01:04 PM

Ill drink to that :beerchug: :D

I'll drink to what Brian said and what Max has said. Oh hell, I'll just drink. :beerchug:

Mystie

August 25th, 2005, 03:28 PM

hey folks.. coming from a old dog, on the forum community (joined zuga's list when it was a list in 1999) and helping admin another, then starting my own, ive seen it all. In any community there are changes and growth. Participants change as was mentioned. This is a good one to hang out and it's stood the test of time. My opinion? lol. post if you want. Visit if you want. and remember. you get what you pay for *smile*

Mystie

August 25th, 2005, 03:29 PM

And.. lol.. it's a thankless job. So, hear's to the boss! Thanks for making a great place to hang out!

photoworks

August 25th, 2005, 04:47 PM

I'll drink to what Brian said and what Max has said. Oh hell, I'll just drink. :beerchug:

Yeaahh I'll drink to that too :beerchug:

Billy

NZDoug

August 25th, 2005, 09:54 PM

Voices from beyond!!!!
The story is that the 18 yr old Nipper hound dissapeared last Dec 13, when Serge and I were up Mt. Atkinson, which is about 3km from my home.(mostly vertical, distance wise.) He knew his way home from there, as he was "free range" and lived in the area since 1992.
This was the last we heard from him, until last week, when my wife mentioned that she saw a car with "Nippy" licence plates.
I logged onto one of my stock agents, and found that the wizzing shot, called "Nippy" had sold , for the usage previously described.
I think this strange co-incidence is that Nippy is trying to reach us from the pearly gates, by sending us bucks and strangly marked vehicles, and Im sure there is more clues in the book!
Gotta get it!
I think he approves of IGOR, who has to fill his paws!
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