Adobe Photoshop CS RAW 2.2 update today

[Marcel F]

Link for MAC version ..

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2461

[Andre]

Here's the Windows link:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=2460

[critter]

I had installed nikon view and nikon capture software on my computer and I had to manually move a couple of files from one of the adobe folders in order to get the plug in to work. Otherwise it would pop up the nikon view software.

Tony

[Dieselfuel]

Critter, do like the ACR 2.2 better than the Nikon Cature 4.1?

Would you please give us your opinion and thoughts?

Thanks,
Df

[critter]

I haven't checked the quality between the two yet. I think Nikon's software is lightyears ahead of the old Fuji software. I heard the raw from CS for fuji wasn't as good although too my eyes I couldn't see it. I think though that Nikon probably communicates with Adobe more so than Fuji. It seems like the interface from the adobe side has more options than the basic interface than the nikon has. A lot more controls at least for exposure, color, saturation, etc. Have to report later with a better evaluation. I just got the new HyperUtility from Mel, just downloaded the ps plugin, and have only had my D70 for two days. And blah its been raining for the last two days...

Tony

[Dieselfuel]

Tony,

I think you're going to REALLY like the D70!

I bought the SB-800, at it's awesome.

REAL easy to use and the exposures are right on.

I have no complaints about image quality with the D70.

[Eddie the Gnat]

I've just downloaded the new version of the plugin, and I've found that it does a much better job of the Fuji RAW files than the previous version. Here's a detail of the Concorde picture I posted a few days ago, and you can see that the new version (top) shows much finer detail, especially in the strakes down the side of the lifeboat, than the ACR v2.1 (bottom) version.

Eddie

[KPRussell]

Other than the cameras that didn't have support before, I think we did get the a big plus out of this update. It specifically says on the update Acrobat ReadMe file -

"• Updated the Fuji SuperCCD interpolation algorithm. "

Thanks for posting those pictures Eddie, I would have blown past this update unless you hadn't shown the difference and prompted me to get it thinking it was just adding new cameras !!

[Mike_B]

Thanks for the comparison pics, Eddie. Just got my S2 in the mail a couple of days ago, and I had already pretty much accepted the fact that I was going to be stuck using the EX software instead of ACR since I want to print fairly large and want the maximum detail. The ability to get the same quality while using Camera Raw would be a great thing.

Since I'm new to the S2 and don't have a lot of basis for evaluating for myself, would you (or anyone else) say that the new ACR now equals the EX software's results?

Mike

[sandman]

Thanks for the link Andre
Could'nt use C.S to edit raw pics from my S7000 before ,(not that i took many)
forgot all about the Adobe update site .
Thank you

Brian

[Eddie the Gnat]

I don't know how this compares to EX as I live in the UK, where Fuji choose to charge about 200 dollars for the software instead of including it in the kit. :mad:

However, this update is a definite improvement on what was already very good - it reminds me of the time I upgraded from a Durst Neonon to a Nikkor 50mm for my enlarger. :)

I'll be interested to see how much better EX can do.

Eddie

[Mike_B]

Eddie,

I've heard that the differences between the EX software and the previous ACR were fairly subtle but definitely there. Which is another reason I'm curious. The differences you showed in your examples seemed a little more than subtle. Well, I'm sure some comparison will be made.

Mike

[robinp]

OK folks, done the download and run some tests....
All conversions done at default settings (camera settings).
I've done a full frame and a zoom to detail for comparison.
- now I can see why I preferred the CS converter when I was having under exposure problems!

Cheers, Robin

[jknights]

Nice work Robin.

Seems like ACR2.2 gives a small improvement.

[Mike_B]

Thanks for the timely comparison, Robin. It's comparisons like this that give me eyestrain and also remind me just what subtle differences we often concern ourselves with. Nonetheless, I'm as curious as anyone, particularly since I want to explore how large I can print with S2 images.

Since mild differences in contrast and saturation often affect our subjective evaluations of such minor variations in detail, I took a few seconds and used PS CS's Match Color option to bring the ACR and EX images a little closer. Hope you don't mind. It helped me in my evaluation a bit, so I figured I'd post it in case it was of use to anyone else.

To my eyes, ACR 2.2 does quite well.

Mike

[robinp]

Thanks Mike,

That really makes the comparison easier and, yes, I'd I agree with you that the latest CS raw converter takes it by a whisker.
I haven't had my S2 very long and a few weeks ago I was struggling with getting exposure right (http://www.theswampbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5518)
and choosing between the various raw conversion options
(http://www.theswampbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4797&page=2&pp=15).
Since sorting the exposure problems I have just been using the Fuji EX converter as I find the CS solution just gives too many options! Once I have a "master TIFF" from EX I can then play around in PSP or PS to get a final result.

Cheers, Robin

[Marcel F]

Here are more comparisons and comments

Enjoy ...

Marcel

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1020&message=8530828

[robinp]

Thank you for the link Marcel, certainly shows how lucky we are to have this easily browsed forum!

Cheers, Robin

[photoworks]

Good improvement over previous version.
S2 RAF files come out almost as good as EX converter, there are not these "plastic" artifacts of Ver. 2,1.
My problem is that I can't make it work with NEF files right.
When i open such a file a small window called "Raw convertion" appears with very few settings, nothing like S2 .

Any suggestions?

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Vasilis

[Marcel F]

Vasilis ,
did you check in the Adobe Forum ?

Regards

Marcel

[photoworks]

Vasilis ,
did you check in the Adobe Forum ?

Regards

Marcel


Thanks Marcel.
It seems I have to delete the NEF plug-in from the Adobe Plug-in folder to make it work.

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Vasilis

[Tom Nolle]

I've been a consistent fan of EX since I got the S2 almost 2 years ago (gee has it been that long), but I ran some tests with a few of my key shots using both the EX converter and CS RAW 2.2. There is no longer enough of a difference in fine detail, IMHO, to justify the burden of EX conversion, but I still plan to use the viewer to browse the RAW, select the shots I want, etc.

Finally Adobe got it right!

Tom

[photoworks]

I totally agree!!
It seems I'll continue to use Fuji software just for the Shooting software.
It's working perfectly with NEF files too.

Very well done at last.

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Vasilis

[critter]

Vasilis you can just rename those Nef files in the plugin folder without deleting them.

[photoworks]

Vasilis you can just rename those Nef files in the plugin folder without deleting them.

I've already deleted them, anyway it works perfectly now.
This version works fine with both S2 and D70.

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Vasilis