Ok..i must choose a flash for my new s2pro

[effector]

ok...now i must choose a flash, i'm not an expert so i don't want the best thing...but only very good thing ;)

choice:

- sunpak pz 5000 -- 270€

- metz 54 MZ 3 -- 320 €
+
-SCA 3402 NAFD -- 50 €

ok the metz is better but i would like to save my money.

Metz also has other advantage, in future i can change only adapter and use it on every camera, isn't it?

So real price difference among metz and sunpak is 50€, isn't it?

Please help me

I also found a used nikon sb 28 for 300€, i think that is too much...no?

[effector]

...
My prices are tax included (about 20% of I.V.A. ..here...in Italy :().
Anyway I found the metz 54 mz3 + sca 3402 at 330€
about 30 € less not too bad. (I suppose that you know, 1$ is about 1€)


So i'm inclined to this flash...the difference from sunpak 5000 is 60€ and i suppose that metz is more powerful than sunpak...and not a little, isn't it?

>>>>Can anyone confirm me that sca 3402 is the correct adapter for S2pro? <<<<

Thanks to all

ciao

Luca

[memobug]

I would think you'd be better off with a used sb28. The most expensive ones I've seen were $300 on ebay in new condition. Some guy offered up two used sb-28 on Zuga.net forum yesterday at $400 for both. They are fully compatible & even support 3d matrix metering.

I don't know what your application is or how much power you need for distance or bouncing or what. I use two metz 45cl-4 hammerheads for wedding photography, with big diffusers or bounced. The metz website gives the appropriate adapters for TTL use, if that's your intention. You need both the adapter and the cable. It's not an inexpensive solution, and it's not exactly subtle in appearance.

Regards,

Matt

[effector]

Originally posted by memobug
I would think you'd be better off with a used sb28. The most expensive ones I've seen were $300 on ebay in new condition. Some guy offered up two used sb-28 on Zuga.net forum yesterday at $400 for both. They are fully compatible & even support 3d matrix metering.

I don't know what your application is or how much power you need for distance or bouncing or what. I use two metz 45cl-4 hammerheads for wedding photography, with big diffusers or bounced. The metz website gives the appropriate adapters for TTL use, if that's your intention. You need both the adapter and the cable. It's not an inexpensive solution, and it's not exactly subtle in appearance.

Regards,

Matt

I'm an architect so I don't need a flash for my shots...i need a flash for my portrait shots, when i'm an amateur.
I don't need the best flash, but i want a good flash...I have a fantastic digicam and i can't think to use something like a nikon sb 50dx..

Anyway..which cable?
I know that metz+sca3402 is enough...but i don't know if this is true...
appereance is not a problem..because already the s2pro is not state of the art of design....

[effector]

double post

[memobug]

I don't know whether you need a flash or not, that's for you to decide. I didn't actually suggest the sb50dx. You don't need a dx flash for the S2 anyway. Get an SB28, unless you really want to mess with adapters.

If you do, the Metz website will tell you which adapters and cables (if any) that you need. If you don't intend to use TTL, you won't may not need any at all. You probably wouldn't need a cable of any kind with the 54MZ3 unless you want to go off camera. With the hammerhead styles, you do, so you'd need a cable then.

http://www.metz.de/1_metz_2000/m_pages_english/main_index_e.php3?link=4&sub=6&linkname=mecablitz

Maybe I wasn't clear about the flash. When it is bigger than the camera it can become obtrusive. State of the art? I think it is, and will remain the best available in its price range - maybe for the rest of this calendar year...

Of course, I hope I am wrong!

Regards,

Matt

[effector]

Originally posted by memobug
I don't know whether you need a flash or not, that's for you to decide. I didn't actually suggest the sb50dx. You don't need a dx flash for the S2 anyway. Get an SB28, unless you really want to mess with adapters.

If you do, the Metz website will tell you which adapters and cables (if any) that you need. If you don't intend to use TTL, you won't may not need any at all. You probably wouldn't need a cable of any kind with the 54MZ3 unless you want to go off camera. With the hammerhead styles, you do, so you'd need a cable then.

http://www.metz.de/1_metz_2000/m_pages_english/main_index_e.php3?link=4&sub=6&linkname=mecablitz

Maybe I wasn't clear about the flash. When it is bigger than the camera it can become obtrusive. State of the art? I think it is, and will remain the best available in its price range - maybe for the rest of this calendar year...

Of course, I hope I am wrong!

Regards,

Matt

Thanks memobug,

the problem is that here, in Italy, Sb 28 has the same price of sb 80 DX 450€ tax included...I found a used sb28 for 300 € but i think that is too much and i don't like used products.
Anyway i don't understand the cable question for metz (may be my bad english, so please forgive me):
In metz web site i already check the correct adapter for 54mz3 on s2pro it's SCA 3402 there isn't nothing about a needed cable for any function.
I asked to online shop, and they tell me that metz+sca don't need any cable beacuse the metz is a sleigh flash (if this isn't the correct word please use your fantasy ;))

About design, i'm writing about the aesthetics design, not other...
Form this point of view i think that both canon d60 and nikon d100 are better...but the D100 win the competition...imho of course.

ciao

Luca

[memobug]

"Slave" I think. Yes the "cobra" style flash should not need an additional cable so long as you intend to
use the flash in the hot shoe of the camera. Some of the other flashes do require cables because they can't mount in the hotshoe.

How much is the 54mz3 and adapter there in Italy as compared to the SB28 or SB80?

Regards,

Matt

[effector]

Originally posted by memobug
"Slave" I think. Yes the "cobra" style flash should not need an additional cable so long as you intend to
use the flash in the hot shoe of the camera. Some of the other flashes do require cables because they can't mount in the hotshoe.

How much is the 54mz3 and adapter there in Italy as compared to the SB28 or SB80?

Regards,

Matt

metz 54 mz 3+ sca3402 = 320 €

Nikon sb 80 DX = 460 €

Nikon Sb 28 = 450 €

Nikon SB 28 DX = 430 €
:(

[Joe Peoples]

You can't go wrong with a used Sb-28 (which I've used extensively, in the past), but the Sb-80 has newer technology and can do more thingies, like zoom to a wider range and has multiple flash synch capabilities, that I don't use. The Sb-28 is no longer available new (at least in the NYC camera stores), so why buy old stuff, unless you can get it at a bargain. The Sb-80 comes with a Stofen-like diffuser and the flash is very consistent. I also like the fact that the hotshoe mount is now metal, instead of plastic.