New stuff at Apple

[Tom V]

Apple unveiled new iMacs, new Mac Minis, new Mac Pros, new AirPort, new Time Capsule, faster MacBook Pros, new keyboards, etc.

Should I upgrade my 2002 G4?

Find all the specs:
http://store.apple.com/us

I usually go here to find out news about Apple:
http://www.appleinsider.com/

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[Auminer]

Should I upgrade my 2002 G4? If you forget what you were doing by the time it does it, that's the time to upgrade...or take a memory refresher course.

[AzRich]

Tom- if you're a mac guy you should check out this board. Real good people, some running hack-n-toshes.

http://x704.net/bbs/index.php?sid=09d011b14da57f69233984c9adc29a90

we're all from xlr8yourmac.com but Mike's board died and I dont think he has the time/energy/money to fix it, so one of the users picked up the slack. Seems those new CPUS are costing Apple $1k a piece!?!?

[Tom V]

Tom- if you're a mac guy...

I've been using Apples since 1989. I owned a IBM ThinkCenter for about 2 hours.

Thanks for the link, I will certainly check it out.

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[Andre]

Personally, I wish I could afford one of the new Mac Pros. For fun I configured one as I would really like it and it was over $12K!!

I'll wait for the 16-core model to come out :)

[rekhon]

Personally, I wish I could afford one of the new Mac Pros. For fun I configured one as I would really like it and it was over $12K!!


I did the exact thing :D

the single apple product i own is an Ipod Shuffle. My first comp was an Laser with a Z80 proc and 256 K memory, and it was fantastic.

Here macs are quite scarce even in advertising industry.

[chris72]

I am a realy big Apple fun, so I have a lot of Apple stuff, iPod shuffle; 12" powerbook G4 /1.5; iPhone 3G and my last acquisition iMac 24" 3.06 new.
I donate all my PC stuff, software, 21" LG monitor, Inter P4 2,6 and more.
So I quit after some years at windows and PC and I'm happy and free, no stupid errors, drivers etc.

[Tom V]

Here macs are quite scarce even in advertising industry.

In the US, the statistic I have heard is that 85% of the graphics industry (printing, pre-press, creative, etc.) uses Apple computers. All the graphic designers I know use Apple. The dominating software is Quark Xpress for layout, Adobe Photoshop for pixels, Adobe Illustrator for drawings, and Adobe Acrobat for making PDFs. Almost everything ends up as PDF (PDF/X-1a files actually) for submission to magazines.

[Auminer]

In the US, the statistic I have heard is that 85% of the graphics industry (printing, pre-press, creative, etc.) uses Apple computers. All the graphic designers I know use Apple.Yup, a great specialized tool! For these fields they rule, although I think they are overpriced.

I was going to go with Mac on this rebuild, but wasn't sure how good Leopard was with essential non-Apple software. I needed a 'puter that was more than a GREAT standalone graphic tool. I know they are more than that, but don't meet my needs. For example, I use Bible software, opensource software, and many web tools not available with a Mac. Now remember I am not sure if the dual boot or whatever it is called in Leopard OS would do the job reliably or not, but until that OS came out the Mac didn't suit my needs.

Someday I still may change, but my point is there are other options that work for other folks...for less $$.

[AzRich]

This is how I see the Apple pricing Dave- high end stuff is generally the stable, ALMOST bleeding edge and expensive. iMacs are different, but not upgradable. The bang-to-buck ratio on the iMacs is pretty nice. Oddly enough, the Minis are a bit high IMO.

No matter which you get, it seems to last a LONG time. I still use PPC code apps with my Quad 3Ghz. In fact, I have a snapscan touch that still works with the latest OSX. I don't think that happens on the PC side so much.

So I guess I'm saying it's a pay now or later kind of deal. There are still driver issues with 3rd party stuff occasionally, but it's rare.

Here's how I do it- I buy last gen refurbs. Any bugs are worked out, and they have Apple warranties. Free shipping from Apple. There was a time I would spoil myself with a stock desktop, brand new, but I don't have any money for that kind of thing anymore.

[corneliaB]

Yup, a great specialized tool! For these fields they rule, although I think they are overpriced.

I was going to go with Mac on this rebuild, but wasn't sure how good Leopard was with essential non-Apple software. I needed a 'puter that was more than a GREAT standalone graphic tool. I know they are more than that, but don't meet my needs. For example, I use Bible software, opensource software, and many web tools not available with a Mac. Now remember I am not sure if the dual boot or whatever it is called in Leopard OS would do the job reliably or not, but until that OS came out the Mac didn't suit my needs.

Someday I still may change, but my point is there are other options that work for other folks...for less $$.

Hello there, just dropped in... it's been a while.
Maybe someone already suggested this, I don't know, but this is what I wanted to say: If you invest in a new Apple computer these days , you can have it all. Leopard on one side and windows xp (the only one in my opinion to bother with) on the other, to run whatever programs you like.
I am speaking from my own experience. I bought a Macbook 2.4 GHZ, maxed out the Ram,(4GB, got it at Ramjet), and just this past weekend upgraded the hard drive to a Seagate 320GB, running at 7200 Rpm. Windows can be installed on any intel based Apple computer via Boot Camp provided with Leopard, or Parallels, or Vmware.

[SSonnentag]

I've been thoroughly enjoying my Apple computers for about 6 years now. My main system is a Mac Pro with 8 cores, 16GB RAM and 7TB disk space. My wife uses (occasionally) her iMac, and the Macbook Pro is for when we're out of town. Oh, I can't forget the iPhone 3G. :righton: Anyway, I resisted Apple for years, believing all the propaganda about them being expensive, dumbed down, toys for idiots, etc. I finally had had enough with Windows' blue screen, freezes, viruses, slowness, poor multitasking, etc. After about 3 weeks with my new Mac I was kicking myself for not switching over sooner. I'll never go back now unless something drastic changes with both Apple and Microsoft.

Shawn

PS Yes, I think you REALLY need to upgrade. :haha:

[Tom V]

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Shawn

PS Yes, I think you REALLY need to upgrade. :haha:

Well, I use my old G4 PowerMac most of the time, but I do have a 24" iMac with CS4 and Lightroom2 on it that I use more and more. I also run Windows XP on the iMac - for the sole purpose of running Quickbooks Pro for Windows. I also have an Intel-based MacBookPro that I use when not in the office. I also have a few other G4 PowerMacs in the house (one for freelancers, one for the kids, one spare).

My favorite G4 is pretty much loaded up, but I have been able to produce hundreds of full page, full color magazine ads on it already this year. The things it did well a few years ago - it still does well. I cannot say that I am sitting here waiting for it to catch up - it's fast enough. I have so few problems with it (none), that I don't have a reason to get rid of it.

I will probably start using my iMac more when I upgrade my Quark Xpress layout program and get a better second monitor for it.