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martin11
September 14th, 2003, 12:37 PM
hello again :-)


well is not quite a prob, may be a featuer, but i think it IS a genneral porb with the cam. when shooting jpegs there is too much contrast and colours seems to be exaggerated. i have ben testing the camera for this for the last two days and do not like this at all. decided to test the nikon d100 now, before i am going to keep the fuji. this issue is the main backdraw of the cam, for me (may be some others will like this).

here are some examples, the other camera was canon 10d. canon seem s to cope better with too much constrast and prduces better colours (i.e. near to the real life). the difference is not big, but for me it could be decisive, i havenot made my mind yet.

btw.: the colour and tone was set to original, of course.

first comes fuji than canon:

martin11
September 14th, 2003, 12:38 PM
this is canon 10d

martin11
September 14th, 2003, 12:49 PM
these two are just examples from a longer series. fuji has produced here a strong blue/violett cast in the shadows, (much) fewer shadow detail, the highlights look washed out, and the whole picture does not look smooth enough for me, not like a photographic print. canon seems to be better, for my taste.

in one word: fuji is much to much contrast and very strong colours, when shooting jpegs.

both cameras were set to auto white point and to jpeg, there was no manipultaion of the images.

the next step for me will be to test fuji raw vs fuji jpeg and then fuji jpeg vs nikon d100 jpeg.

i have read on the net that nikon needs lots of postproduction to its images, if this turns to be true, then i would stay with the fuji. jpeg-images from fuji are very hard but printable and seldom require corrections (if one can live with those extreme colours). i do not know if one can say the same about the nikon d100.

any comments of nikon d100 users would be highly wanted for :-)

martin

Steve Wynn
September 14th, 2003, 01:14 PM
Martin11,

The Fuji has plenty of adjustment to experiment with.

The "Tone" pretty much equates to the contrast Org Tone being the lowest, Std Tone next and Hard for the Highest Contrast.

Combinen these with the color settings and you get a lot of control over the image.

Steve

sandman
September 14th, 2003, 01:39 PM
Martin ,it was well known that eary fuji models had over saturated reds and greens, this however has largly been fixed in the 3rd gen ccd , however your problem might just be the difference's between the different ccds configerations used on other camera's. it happened on film to , if you wanted saturated colours you generally bought fuji film .

martin11
September 14th, 2003, 03:37 PM
sandman,

thanks for your answer, but my fuji is rfom latest series (serial no. 33...) and yes, me too think, that fuji tries to give a "velvia look" to the jpeg pictures.

no problem with that, if there were an option to override this. but there is none, in the above examples all adjuments were set to minimum contrast and saturation (this one goes to BuckeyeNomad).

martin

Steve Wynn
September 14th, 2003, 04:10 PM
I'm out of answers!

Steve