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petej
October 9th, 2005, 03:28 PM
Now I can live with dust on the sensor and the odd blow with a blower or clean with a sensor swab but I am finding the EOS ID Mk2 a real pain. Is it just me or is this thing a dust magnet! :mad:

I have a good range of bodies to use and none (Canon, Fuji, Nikon, or Kodak) give me problems like this. I thought maybe its because its a full frame sensor but I don’t have theses problems with the Kodak SLR/N.

I am always careful about when and how I change the lens so it not my “style” as all my DSLRs would be like that right?

Is it just me? :confused:

Swampy
October 9th, 2005, 07:35 PM
Now I can live with dust on the sensor and the odd blow with a blower or clean with a sensor swab but I am finding the EOS ID Mk2 a real pain. Is it just me or is this thing a dust magnet! :mad:

I have a good range of bodies to use and none (Canon, Fuji, Nikon, or Kodak) give me problems like this. I thought maybe its because its a full frame sensor but I don’t have theses problems with the Kodak SLR/N.

I am always careful about when and how I change the lens so it not my “style” as all my DSLRs would be like that right?

Is it just me? :confused:

I am not having any issues over my S2 and D70's with my 1Ds and 1D, however the wife's 20D seems to have more than the "usual" amount.

I have found however, that with the MPE65mm Macro lens, I'll pick up a LOT of dust, however, it's 3 inches long and extends to like 18 inches (or so it seems - quite a bit really) and is very well sealed within itself. With both lens caps on it, trying to extend it is tough as you can feel the seel all the way around. So, putting in on a body, I can only imagine how much air is being sucked through the body.

Are you using any lenses that would suck air?

Sneakyracer
October 9th, 2005, 09:10 PM
My 1D mk2 stays pretty clean even though i change lenses out in the field often. Certainly stays cleaner than the fuji S2 i had.

Even so I got the brushes from www.visibledust.com which are just excellent to clean sensors quickly. Very very effective and easy. :goldcup:

Wichita Wayne
October 9th, 2005, 09:44 PM
Are you using any lenses that would suck air?

I do not have any lenses that suck, because they are all Nikon. It does not suprise me at all that your Canon lenses suck.

Swampy.....I cannot believe that you set that up so well. LOL!

I have noticed that my Nikkor 70~200 slider tends to cause dust more than others. We really do not have too much dust trouble in any of our Fuji or Nikon DSLRs. When we do it has to be really bad for us to stop and clean things in the field. We treat minor dust similar to the way we treated dust with film. We spot it either with positive retouching or if it is in the computer we spot in PSCS.

I have never seen a dust problem on one of our fixed lens digital cameras and some of them have lenses that really move a long way. So, I suspect that most of the trouble is happening when you change lenses. Machined surfaces also tend to shed fine pieces of metal as the lenses are mounted. So you might try to clean around the inside of the mount and get rid of any stray metallic particles that could find their way back to the sensor. We also try to load different lenses on different bodies before we leave the studio. That way when we are in the field we can change rigs rather than changing lenses.

petej
October 10th, 2005, 04:38 PM
Can’t say I have thought about lenses that may suck! Bryan

The only one that I have that may is the 100-400 IS push pull zoom but the rear element stays in poison so I canot see that it would suck debris in (maybe into the lens but not the sensor) Having said that I don’t use it much on the 1Ds as I don’t feel it does the camera justice so its on a 20D most of the time

I tend to keep the lens on the body and just take 2 bodies to try and keep the dust to a minimum which is the reason for my despair.

Guess I will just have to persevere

Thanks for all the input guys! :righton:

Auminer
October 10th, 2005, 10:33 PM
I do not have any lenses that suck, because they are all Nikon. It does not suprise me at all that your Canon lenses suck.
Swampy.....I cannot believe that you set that up so well. LOL!Hehehe... :rofl: :D :rofl: even if I owned a Canon, I would have to laugh, nice shot Wayne :)

Dave

Wichita Wayne
October 11th, 2005, 06:44 AM
Bryan's dust problem is probably not related to the brand of camera he uses. A full frame 35mm sensor might offer a greater surface area to gather dust but I bet this is the only variable involved that relates to camera brand. I would guess that over time his mirror housing has become dirty and causes the dust problem. If the camera was mine I would swab out the mirror housing with the mirror locked up. I would wet my swab with ethanol or methanol because they evaporate quick and help dry any moisture. The area around the lens mount can really get dirty over time so that needs special attention. The other thing is that he needs to watch the environment where he changes lenses. I have very little dust problem because I am primarily an inside photographer. When I shoot outside I tend to load a lens at home and never change while in the field. Bryan is an outdoor photographer that probably changes his lenses in an environment that allows wind and dust to cause his trouble. I have read several outdoor photographers that never change their lenses outdoors. They use multiple bodies and mount lenses on them more or less permanently while in the field. For Bryan to buy three 1Ds Mk II cameras probably does not make good sense. Besides he likes to keep his equipment at the cutting edge and in a year or so he will probably want to upgrade to something better that will have a new warranty. Like the Hasselblad H2D.

Swampy
October 11th, 2005, 07:18 AM
I usually go out to shoot a particular type of thing, so I generally keep my 70-200 on one body and the 400 on the other body and that's that for wildlife shooting anyway.

If I'm on the road however, yes. Depends on what I'm doing and if I feel I need the full frame sensor or if the cropped sensor willl work. Now, that leaves me with the 400, 70-200, 24-70, 16-35 and 2 macro lenses to fit my need basically. So in those circumstances, I am changing lenses all the time. But, I do it in the car and I don't generally see a lot of dust problems on my 1D or 1Ds in this instance.

Now, I'll set up some lights in my garage (converted room basically too - so it's fairly clean), switch lenses to the MP-E 65mm and shoot macro's inside. Boom. I have dust bunnies everywhere now. Now, be it that all that dust was from previous outside lens changing or not, that 65mm is pushing and pulling a lot of air through the camera body....

I have been looking at that Phase One 39mp back for the H1 though. For doing some macro and landscape stuff.... :P

Sneakyracer
October 11th, 2005, 11:47 AM
Have any of you guys tried the visibledust brushes???

I have them and they are excellent. very very quick cleanup and no messing about with liquids.

$$ but worth it.

Swampy
October 11th, 2005, 12:33 PM
I haven't....

xrdbear
October 12th, 2005, 03:08 AM
Have any of you guys tried the visibledust brushes???

I have them and they are excellent. very very quick cleanup and no messing about with liquids.

$$ but worth it.

I have and can confirm they are very good at the job. Also I have found that the blast from my Rocket hand blower is quite sufficient to clean and charge the brush. So far I have not had to buy canned air at all. Also extremely quick.

Steve P
October 12th, 2005, 01:30 PM
Hey Pete,

Life's hard at the top! You wanna get the oh so slow Fuji out :lol:

petej
October 15th, 2005, 11:30 AM
No never tried the visibledust brushes.

I don’t seam to have a problem cleaning the sensor just keeping it clean.

Steve.

Still use the Fuji but it does seam slow (Especially next to a D2X!) but it has its place, Good images and nice and light! :cheers:

lightwrangler
October 16th, 2005, 11:07 AM
I have and can confirm they are very good at the job. Also I have found that the blast from my Rocket hand blower is quite sufficient to clean and charge the brush. So far I have not had to buy canned air at all. Also extremely quick.

I got mine a month or so ago. Works like a charm. Of course I have been using the CO2 cartridges for some time with good results too. I don't have to use a solution and swabs very much any more.

dartz
June 2nd, 2006, 09:31 AM
well, i ve done it, and quite reducing dust problem.

i dismount the battery before changing lenses..
somehow, in my d70 day, it helps.

somehow it doesnt help if we working in dusty enviroment :(
(when changing lenses)