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Freddy2
July 26th, 2003, 04:48 PM
I know its not a directly related question for this forum,
but if anyone has any suggestions it would be great....

I have a 2100/2200 epson printer and am printing black and white prints, they come out beautifully indoors in incandescant light but have huge green cast in daylight. Does anyone know if i can get my prints to be the same indoors and out like normal lab black and white.

Im shooting these on the s2 in bw mode and in raw .
would really appreciate if anyone can help me on this one

I originaly had this question in colour management just saw this catagory , sorry

cthornhill
July 26th, 2003, 08:33 PM
What you describe is called metamarism. A colorant produces one color under one spectrum of light (say incandescent) and another under a different spectum of light (say, daylight). Most ink sets used in ink jet printing have some degree of this, as do lots of colorants used in every other sort of colored product.

On the Epson 2100 and 2200 pigment inks are used and they are balanced to reduce this phenomonon. They do not completely eliminate it in all cases. You can adjust the black in you are using (make sure your ink choice matches the paper type), and you can profile the paper to create a custom ink balance to reduce the appearance of the effect. You can also choose to just print with black ink only.

I think you will find trying different paper combinations is worth it, and using the grey balancer and printer driver (or rip if you have a seperate one) to reduce the effect is a good first step. I do know lots of people who choose to print black ink only as well, but most people using the 2100/2200 don't find this a requirement.

I find glossy papers often show the effect more than matt papers. I would start by selecting a good matt and seeing if the effect is as bad on it. I like Epson's matt and Legions matt.

You might also just try a black only print and see how it looks.

There are lots of articles about this and other 2100 subjects on printer oriented web sites. Check out some links from www.inkjetart.com and www.computer-darkroom.com.

You might also want to see the offerings from Cone since they do have ink sets that are not going to shift in different light, though you have to dedicate you printer to B&W. They can be found at www.inkjetmall.com under the B&W area.

Good Luck.

Cecil

lowellg
July 26th, 2003, 09:43 PM
I also have the 2200 and used it to print BW's as well and they all come out superb even if viewed indoors or outdoors. I don't know if you've tried it already but the combination of Matte Black ink with Epson's Enhanced Matte Paper produce excellent reuslts. Check to make sure you select the correct Paper type on the printer settings.

Cheers and Goodluck!

jeffinkansas
August 9th, 2003, 02:41 PM
try printing with black only ink selected. It adds a little "grain", but I love the results. The other option is purchasing a rip